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Beware of dry/hard food!
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John Doe
2021-09-15 23:58:04 UTC
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It can hurt your cat's throat. I was told that about 20 years ago from a
local veterinarian. But the effects had never been obvious. Recently, I met
someone who had no idea and apparently didn't much care why their cat could
not meow... "It just happened, the vet says she's healthy ". Probably the
same vet who declawed it. It's inability to meow was probably caused by them
feeding it hard food only.

I leave hard food out for mine to snack on, plus wet meals. One of my cats
was eating more dry food than the others and its voice changed. I immediately
suspected the dry food and started feeding it wet food only. I think it's
voice has changed back, but in any case surely that was the problem (I'll
post a follow-up later).

Now I've seen/heard it with my own 2 eyes. If you feed any dry food, pay
attention to the sound of their meow. Probably depends on several factors
like the cat and the specific dry food, and possibly other things.

Good luck!
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Mark Carroll
2021-09-16 03:46:58 UTC
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On 15 Sep 2021, John Doe wrote:
(snip)
Post by John Doe
I leave hard food out for mine to snack on, plus wet meals. One of my cats
was eating more dry food than the others and its voice changed. I immediately
suspected the dry food and started feeding it wet food only. I think it's
voice has changed back, but in any case surely that was the problem (I'll
post a follow-up later).
(snip)

Thank you, that'd be interesting. I'd vaguely recalled that a mix of wet
and dry is best but I don't remember why and, indeed, with multiple
cats, I guess it can be a challenge to watch consumption to make sure
each is getting enough balance.

-- Mark
John Doe
2021-09-19 07:17:15 UTC
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Post by Mark Carroll
Post by John Doe
I leave hard food out for mine to snack on, plus wet meals. One of my
cats was eating more dry food than the others and its voice changed. I
immediately suspected the dry food and started feeding it wet food
only. I think it's voice has changed back, but in any case surely that
was the problem (I'll post a follow-up later).
Thank you, that'd be interesting. I'd vaguely recalled that a mix of wet
and dry is best but I don't remember why and, indeed, with multiple
cats, I guess it can be a challenge to watch consumption to make sure
each is getting enough balance.
Yep. Her regular sounding meow is back. There was another symptom that
came and went in the same timeframe. I'm very confident that was the
problem.

FWIW... The dry food it snacks on can be put in a plastic zipper bag
(maybe 1/5 full) with some water. It saturates, and when served it remains
moist for a long time. Probably better to use too little water than too
much water in the mixture, it should not be runny. Rinsing that bag
opening under running water helps keep it clean between servings. Probably
refrigerate. It probably doesn't taste good, but "Toobig" can cope with it
for necessary snacks.
Mark Carroll
2021-09-19 14:44:28 UTC
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Post by John Doe
Yep. Her regular sounding meow is back. There was another symptom that
came and went in the same timeframe. I'm very confident that was the
problem.
That's great, thank you for the update. (-:

I had one cat that was vocal only at night, in kind of a, "where have
you all gone?" when we were in bed.
Post by John Doe
FWIW... The dry food it snacks on can be put in a plastic zipper bag
(maybe 1/5 full) with some water. It saturates, and when served it remains
moist for a long time. Probably better to use too little water than too
much water in the mixture, it should not be runny. Rinsing that bag
opening under running water helps keep it clean between servings. Probably
refrigerate. It probably doesn't taste good, but "Toobig" can cope with it
for necessary snacks.
Ah, interesting to know how absorbent it is. I'd separately wondered
about foods that are very moist indeed, having seen how eager some cats
can be to gobble up treats like Webbox's Lick-e-Lix.

-- Mark
Peter W.
2021-09-21 19:20:00 UTC
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If cats are demand-eaters and are good drinkers, a high quality dry food (which is NOT "Meow-Mix"), will be an important part of a good diet. Cats that are either dehydrated, poor drinkers, cannot be allowed to be demand-eaters for concerns about obesity-or-similar need to have their dry-food intake carefully monitored. Guys and gals, this is neither rocket-science nor exotic, special or hidden information.
So, lets us look at some terms:

"Can hurt your cat's throat." Yep, so can lye, sawdust and other materials. Tell me something I DO NOT already know. Dry food *will* do damage under specific conditions and if not reasonably monitored. the key is monitoring, a concept that is apparently foreign to Doe, who seems to feel that everything should be automatic. Pets require interaction, care, feeding, even love...

All concepts foreign to DOE.
John Doe
2021-09-22 06:31:32 UTC
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This poster's objective for occasionally dropping by is to bash anybody
who posts constructive information. Just like "reilloc", "Peter W." is a
self-centered stalker...
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If cats are demand-eaters and are good drinkers, a high quality dry food (which is NOT "Meow-Mix"), will be an important part of a good diet. Cats that are either dehydrated, poor drinkers, cannot be allowed to be demand-eaters for concerns about obesity-or-similar need to have their dry-food intake carefully monitored. Guys and gals, this is neither rocket-science nor exotic, special or hidden information.
"Can hurt your cat's throat." Yep, so can lye, sawdust and other materials. Tell me something I DO NOT already know. Dry food *will* do damage under specific conditions and if not reasonably monitored. the key is monitoring, a concept that is apparently foreign to Doe, who seems to feel that everything should be automatic. Pets require interaction, care, feeding, even love...
All concepts foreign to DOE.
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2021-09-22 14:10:24 UTC
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2021-09-22 19:02:07 UTC
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2021-09-22 17:08:34 UTC
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
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The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
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Edward Hernandez
2021-09-22 14:10:48 UTC
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is > CLUELESS...
And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Wed, 22 Sep 2021 06:31:32 -0000
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