Discussion:
Beware of bully cats
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John Doe
2017-05-07 05:17:08 UTC
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They can destroy your other cats' lives.

My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
reilloc
2017-05-10 05:03:46 UTC
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Post by John Doe
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
Yer kinda nutty, ain'tcha? Hogtying a cat you think's unPC? Where you
live and I'll call the ACPCA on you?

LNC

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John Doe
2017-05-10 05:16:43 UTC
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It is not "hogtied" you piece of shit.

So easy to act holier-than-thou over the Internet. If there
were some better way to cope that doesn't suffer the pretense
of holiness and self-sacrifice on the part of the advice
giver, let's hear it. Certainly letting my other cats suffer
is not the solution.

This troll can go fuck itself, and its mother too...
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Post by John Doe
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
Yer kinda nutty, ain'tcha? Hogtying a cat you think's unPC? Where you
live and I'll call the ACPCA on you?
LNC
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reilloc
2017-05-13 23:41:07 UTC
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Post by John Doe
It is not "hogtied" you piece of shit.
So easy to act holier-than-thou over the Internet. If there
were some better way to cope that doesn't suffer the pretense
of holiness and self-sacrifice on the part of the advice
giver, let's hear it. Certainly letting my other cats suffer
is not the solution.
This troll can go fuck itself, and its mother too...
Yer more'n jest a little nutty; yer fuktup in de haid. All yer cats's
sufferin' because they're yer cats. Yer an animal abuser, JD. Maybe
somebody investigating yer hoarding behavior'll notice the way you've
got one of 'em lashed up and send you to jail.

You'll like jail. No bullies there.

LNC

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John Doe
2017-05-14 01:05:43 UTC
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This is my original post...

My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.

To any normal person, that should look like an excellent
solution to a horrible problem. It is. Of course not all
people rescue cats, some buy cats from pet stores and might
not consider the possibility of having to cope with serious
behavioral problems. And when they do, they end up dumping
them on the street and people like me end up taking care of
them.

Maybe this troll is envious/jealous of my cat's Skyway. Or
maybe it is addicted to opioids. Or maybe the old man's
Depends is leaking...
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Post by John Doe
It is not "hogtied" you piece of shit.
So easy to act holier-than-thou over the Internet. If there
were some better way to cope that doesn't suffer the pretense
of holiness and self-sacrifice on the part of the advice
giver, let's hear it. Certainly letting my other cats suffer
is not the solution.
This troll can go fuck itself, and its mother too...
Yer more'n jest a little nutty; yer fuktup in de haid. All yer cats's
sufferin' because they're yer cats. Yer an animal abuser, JD. Maybe
somebody investigating yer hoarding behavior'll notice the way you've
got one of 'em lashed up and send you to jail.
You'll like jail. No bullies there.
LNC
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reilloc
2017-05-14 03:13:52 UTC
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Post by John Doe
This is my original post...
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
To any normal person, that should look like an excellent
solution to a horrible problem. It is. Of course not all
people rescue cats, some buy cats from pet stores and might
not consider the possibility of having to cope with serious
behavioral problems. And when they do, they end up dumping
them on the street and people like me end up taking care of
them.
Maybe this troll is envious/jealous of my cat's Skyway. Or
maybe it is addicted to opioids. Or maybe the old man's
Depends is leaking...
Rescue? Yer the Jeffrey Dahmer of cat rescuing, saving them from a
lonely life on the street so you can bind them with leather and hobble
them until they submit. What next? Your calico casserole recipes?

Of course, I love it that you repeated your original, airheaded post
that included the memorable line, "...easily *dawn* and doff it." Is
that like Dawn Diego or Dawn King?

Now, get back to yer feline torture chamber and wait for that knock on
the door.

LNC

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John Doe
2017-05-14 04:29:29 UTC
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Needs to get off of the corncob...
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Post by John Doe
This is my original post...
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
To any normal person, that should look like an excellent
solution to a horrible problem. It is. Of course not all
people rescue cats, some buy cats from pet stores and might
not consider the possibility of having to cope with serious
behavioral problems. And when they do, they end up dumping
them on the street and people like me end up taking care of
them.
Maybe this troll is envious/jealous of my cat's Skyway. Or
maybe it is addicted to opioids. Or maybe the old man's
Depends is leaking...
Rescue? Yer the Jeffrey Dahmer of cat rescuing, saving them from a
lonely life on the street so you can bind them with leather and hobble
them until they submit. What next? Your calico casserole recipes?
Of course, I love it that you repeated your original, airheaded post
that included the memorable line, "...easily *dawn* and doff it." Is
that like Dawn Diego or Dawn King?
Now, get back to yer feline torture chamber and wait for that knock on
the door.
LNC
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Rutan
2017-06-05 14:26:10 UTC
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I defintely would never do this to a cat


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John Doe
2017-06-05 18:23:47 UTC
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The replies remind me of the cannibal left's view on open
borders and welcoming arms to all comers, no matter how badly
they want to hurt us.

Using a cuff appears to be an excellent real-world solution
to a very difficult real-world problem. Perhaps the poster
has never needed to deal with a bully cat. If the thing can
be placed in a home with no other cats, that would be better,
but that is not the situation here.

So easy to act holier-than-thou on the Internet...
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I defintely would never do this to a cat.
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reilloc
2017-06-06 03:53:15 UTC
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Post by John Doe
The replies remind me of the cannibal left's view on open
borders and welcoming arms to all comers, no matter how badly
they want to hurt us.
Using a cuff appears to be an excellent real-world solution
to a very difficult real-world problem. Perhaps the poster
has never needed to deal with a bully cat. If the thing can
be placed in a home with no other cats, that would be better,
but that is not the situation here.
So easy to act holier-than-thou on the Internet...
What? You, again, with your brilliant insight into feline personality
and your master plan to physically abuse them into conformity? If the
thing can be rescued from your torture chamber and placed anywhere else,
that would be better.

You're a sick man, an animal abuser and painfully stupid.

LNC
John Doe
2017-06-06 04:47:02 UTC
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My method of coping is humane as possible. That helps make it
a great method. It restricts the bully cats movement only
enough so that it stops terrorizing my other cats. Physical
restraints are used all over in the real world to cope with
behavioral problems. When necessary, using such against a cat
is not abuse, it is constructive.

The opposition reminds me of the cannibal left's denial of
terrorism. A safe bet is that both reply authors are cannibal
leftists.

My best method so far for coping with a bully cat... Make a
small closed belt perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to
do with belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be
just the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one
of their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just
right, they can walk and use the litter box, but they are
somewhat disabled which discourages them from picking on your
other cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any
muscle strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can
easily dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two
hands. It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my
opinion, if you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot.
Could not be easier to use. Especially good for when you are
gone.

Anyone who has lots of experience managing cats knows better
than to think you can verbally stop a cat from doing anything
it wants to do. In the case of a bully cat like mine,
uncorrected, it makes the lives of my other cats living hell.

There are two common charades on the Internet. Being a tough
guy and being holier-than-thou. This troll plays out both...
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Post by John Doe
The replies remind me of the cannibal left's view on open
borders and welcoming arms to all comers, no matter how badly
they want to hurt us.
Using a cuff appears to be an excellent real-world solution
to a very difficult real-world problem. Perhaps the poster
has never needed to deal with a bully cat. If the thing can
be placed in a home with no other cats, that would be better,
but that is not the situation here.
So easy to act holier-than-thou on the Internet...
What? You, again, with your brilliant insight into feline personality
and your master plan to physically abuse them into conformity? If the
thing can be rescued from your torture chamber and placed anywhere else,
that would be better.
You're a sick man, an animal abuser and painfully stupid.
LNC
reilloc
2017-06-06 22:48:28 UTC
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Post by John Doe
But it is a viable workaround because you can
easily dawn and doff it
Dummy. Too stupid to fix the grammar in your cat torture-porn post. Yer
one sick fuck.

LNC
John Doe
2017-06-07 06:07:25 UTC
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I use speech recognition. But in my original post, what I
meant was spelled out so there was no confusion.

This tough-guy-wannabe holier-than-thou troll wants to be a
spelling Nazi too...
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Post by John Doe
But it is a viable workaround because you can
easily dawn and doff it
Dummy. Too stupid to fix the grammar in your cat torture-porn post. Yer
one sick fuck.
LNC
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2017-06-27 16:47:56 UTC
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Post by John Doe
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs. Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or had better not contain stairs. That is problem A.

Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the obvious 'bad'. That is problem B.

Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question. And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C.

There are others - but they are less blatant.

Now, as the "Cannibal Left" was mentioned, the rest is fair game:

On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H.L. Mencken

“Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.”

Harry Truman
John Doe
2017-06-28 05:58:26 UTC
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The poster is ignorant and incorrectly assuming things. The
cuff is not so restrictive. My dwelling contains a Skyway for
my cats. The holier-than-thou reply author has no such device
for its cats. My cats' skyway includes ramps at various
points that go up to their skyway. Their Skyway is a
collection of pathways above head level that go from one room
to another and to platforms at various places. Even when the
bully is cuffed, it has used the skyway, that is more
difficult to climb than stairs. My cats love their skyway,
have always used it. Not only for exercise and sleep, but as
it happens my pint-size Norwegian Forest Calico can get to
platforms on the skyway that are inaccessible to the bully.
That helps, too.

Holier-than-thou Internet trolls lack self awareness.

Democrats hold fewer offices nationwide than in over 100
years. Now Republicans hold all three federal branches and
Donald Trump will place 3-5 Supreme Court judges. Obama
following George "jobs Americans won't do" Bush Junior was
not an accomplishment (4 of 5 presidents have served eight
year terms since 1980).

Democrats are like the Black Night in Monty Python's Holy
Grail. Hurling insults and taunts at Republicans as if it
matters. They are a bunch of powerless dweebs blowing smoke
while their party is becoming extinct.

Being extremely nonpartisan, I find those facts disturbing. I
would rather we have two viable political parties. But
self-improvement cannot happen while being misled by a
holier-than-thou ego.

A holier-than-thou troll...
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Post by John Doe
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs. Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or had better not contain stairs. That is problem A.
Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the obvious 'bad'. That is problem B.
Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question. And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C.
There are others - but they are less blatant.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
H.L. Mencken
ƒ oRepublicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.ƒ
Harry Truman
n***@nada.com
2017-10-22 19:05:15 UTC
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Post by p***@aol.com
Post by John Doe
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
I just found this newsgroup,. Much of this post is simply wrong.
Post by p***@aol.com
Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs. Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or had better not contain stairs. That is problem A.
I had a cat who lost a rear leg to cancer. Post amputation, it could
run, jump, speed up stairs. Thier mobility is impaired far less than
believed. And this was a 16 year old who made it to 20.
Post by p***@aol.com
Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the obvious 'bad'. That is problem B.
And with too many cats what do you do? If it's a bully it's not going
to get a home, just dead.
Post by p***@aol.com
Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question. And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C.
Just wrong again. They can do most anything most other cats can do.
And what kind of "event" did you have in mind?
Post by p***@aol.com
There are others - but they are less blatant.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
H.L. Mencken
�Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.�
Harry Truman
Peter W.
2017-10-23 13:34:15 UTC
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There is a difference between a cat that is adapting to a permanent injury, and a cat that has been deliberately hobbled. That a cat may look entirely recovered after a number of months or years does not equate to a hobbled cat in a panic situation.

Our big Maine Coon (21 pounds) likes to walk up (and down) the stairway handrails (center-hall colonial). And he will jump onto the level section or the newel posts at any point. Imagine him trying that, hobbled.

I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.

Will Rogers
n***@nada.com
2017-10-23 23:51:30 UTC
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Post by Peter W.
There is a difference between a cat that is adapting to a permanent injury, and a cat that has been deliberately hobbled. That a cat may look entirely recovered after a number of months or years does not equate to a hobbled cat in a panic situation.
Our big Maine Coon (21 pounds) likes to walk up (and down) the stairway handrails (center-hall colonial). And he will jump onto the level section or the newel posts at any point. Imagine him trying that, hobbled.
I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.
Will Rogers
What adapting? The cat came home 2 days after amputating a rear leg
and it's first act was to jump on the bed. Next he walked on the
window sill. Except for walking funny there was no difference in the
cat's behavior. And this was at 16 years old.

Cats don't feel sorry for themselves which seems a large part of
recovery for humans. They just do with what they have.
John Doe
2017-10-25 00:43:44 UTC
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The Calico and Toobig just had a long playing session. It was
productive with awkward back and forth give and take. Toobig
has adapted well over the years but still requires
supervision. I have to break it off when the Calico tires,
otherwise Toobig switches into robotic domination mode.
Seeing Toobig restrain itself during play is amusing.
cshenk
2017-10-25 23:13:30 UTC
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Post by n***@nada.com
Post by p***@aol.com
Post by John Doe
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
I just found this newsgroup,. Much of this post is simply wrong.
Post by p***@aol.com
Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs.
Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or
other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or
had better not contain stairs. That is problem A.
I had a cat who lost a rear leg to cancer. Post amputation, it could
run, jump, speed up stairs. Thier mobility is impaired far less than
believed. And this was a 16 year old who made it to 20.
Post by p***@aol.com
Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is
whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable
than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so
small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you
have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such
crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the
obvious 'bad'. That is problem B.
And with too many cats what do you do? If it's a bully it's not going
to get a home, just dead.
Post by p***@aol.com
Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where
we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden
exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question.
And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything
up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C.
Just wrong again. They can do most anything most other cats can do.
And what kind of "event" did you have in mind?
Post by p***@aol.com
There are others - but they are less blatant.
Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange
folks.

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Peter W.
2017-10-26 13:09:24 UTC
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Post by cshenk
Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange
folks.
Cats... kinda-sorta goes with the territory.
cshenk
2017-10-26 21:23:35 UTC
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Post by Peter W.
Post by cshenk
Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange
folks.
Cats... kinda-sorta goes with the territory.
LOL, true!

Meantime, in in another group, we just finished up the annual Jellicle
Ball. It's a simple fun little story board type thing (we play our own
pets parts) and it's also a healing memorial of all the pets that have
passed over the bridge. It was a very large list this time as a cat
colony got hit by something bad and they lost a lot of them.

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John Doe
2017-10-26 19:51:33 UTC
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This troll is "hoping to regrow this group" by...
1. Never making an original post.
2. Posting an entirely off-topic disjointed reply.
3. Bashing posters for actively participating in this group.
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Post by p***@aol.com
Post by John Doe
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
I just found this newsgroup,. Much of this post is simply wrong.
Post by p***@aol.com
Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs.
Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or
other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or
had better not contain stairs. That is problem A.
I had a cat who lost a rear leg to cancer. Post amputation, it could
run, jump, speed up stairs. Thier mobility is impaired far less than
believed. And this was a 16 year old who made it to 20.
Post by p***@aol.com
Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is
whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable
than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so
small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you
have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such
crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the
obvious 'bad'. That is problem B.
And with too many cats what do you do? If it's a bully it's not going
to get a home, just dead.
Post by p***@aol.com
Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where
we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden
exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question.
And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything
up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C.
Just wrong again. They can do most anything most other cats can do.
And what kind of "event" did you have in mind?
Post by p***@aol.com
There are others - but they are less blatant.
Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange
folks.
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2017-11-26 08:48:40 UTC
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Post by cshenk
Post by n***@nada.com
Post by p***@aol.com
Post by John Doe
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
I just found this newsgroup,. Much of this post is simply wrong.
Post by p***@aol.com
Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs.
Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or
other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or
had better not contain stairs. That is problem A.
I had a cat who lost a rear leg to cancer. Post amputation, it could
run, jump, speed up stairs. Thier mobility is impaired far less than
believed. And this was a 16 year old who made it to 20.
Post by p***@aol.com
Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is
whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable
than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so
small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you
have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such
crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the
obvious 'bad'. That is problem B.
And with too many cats what do you do? If it's a bully it's not going
to get a home, just dead.
Post by p***@aol.com
Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where
we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden
exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question.
And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything
up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C.
Just wrong again. They can do most anything most other cats can do.
And what kind of "event" did you have in mind?
Post by p***@aol.com
There are others - but they are less blatant.
Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange
folks.
Totally new here.. but I think both sides haves points.

Hampering a bully isn’t that bad an idea. Just separating and “gentling”
sounds very vague- is that castrating or trying to tame by hand feeding or
something.

A cat that bullies other cats won’t behave better with other cats by human
taming. It’s a cat/cat thing not a human/cat thing.

If the belt works and doesn’t hurt the cat, sounds like it’s worth a go.
John Doe
2017-11-27 08:23:55 UTC
Permalink
Still using it. Takes a little effort, but it works great.

I step outside for a minute, hear my Calico start growling from
being chased by Toobig... So I step back in, apply the collar,
and step back outside :)

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